Oh my,

I just realized why I recognized the name Judy Sgro. For those of you who recall, this was the Minister of Immigration under Paul Martin. She resigned after it was found out that she had been using a loophole in the immigration act to let foreign strippers into the country to work on Visas. One of them came to work on her election bid. Now, as Deanna was the chair of that bid.... Anyone drawing any lines here?

There was a law suit and Sgro was "cleared" because she didn't know what was going on, but we might just have a case of plausible deniablity here. Basicly the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing because if it did, there would be legal issues.

Interesting... VERY interesting. I STRONGLY suggest everyone who has received this letter contact the Liberal Party Ethics committee. This would be strike two, and would be more then frowned upon considering the history.

Don't forget, there is an election coming up and don't let HER forget it either!

First 2 sugestions are good but the cops won't do much about the *57 thing when they find it's just a collection agency. *57 wasn't designed for those sorts of calls because, although the collection agency call may be harassing, it's deemed to be for a lawful purpose.and so falls outside CCC Section 372 (3)'s intent.
Otherwise, they' would have to toss every collection agent in jail.

Hmmm...... not such a bad idea when I think of MIlo.

Ray

I have some suggestions.

First off, anyone who has received this letter should be faxing it, along with a written letter of complaint to the Upper Canada Law Society. You can fax it in to 1-416-947-5263 Attention: Complaints.

After that I would suggest contacting your Liberal MP or the Liberal Office nearest to you and ask to speak to the Ethics Committee regarding this issue. As Deanna is the Campaign Chair for Judy Sgro, her Mother, she is bound by the Ethics commitment of the Liberal Party. Be sure to mention that you have filed a complaint with the Law Society and that there are other complaints pending against her. If you are a member of Judy Sgro's riding, I would suggest filing a formal complaint with Judy herself as well.

She thinks her political connections will protect her, time for her to learn those connections go TWO ways.

Lastly, call her at her office number which is posted below and request, or demand, to be placed on their DO NOT CONTACT LIST. If they contact you after you have requested this, hang up, dial *57 to send a trace to your phone companies Corporate Security department (this may be different for different companies), do this on three occasions and then contact the police saying that you are receiving harassing phone calls that won't stop even after you have requested to be put on their DO NOT CONTACT list. At that point action will be taken to remove their auto dialer as per laws governing the uses of such devices.

at least that is my understanding.

Hope that helps. I had a nice therapeutic yell at her this morning. Felt DAMN good.

Well, for starters may I suggest the folowing.

1. I think we should rename the blog thread "Global Credit and Collections Featuring Deanna Natale" to indicate to neophytes that Deanna Natale is their lawyer.

I had a feeling that might be necessary as soon as that guy from New Brunswick contacted me regarding her last week. I surmised that Global bought up a whole pile of SOL debt and started sending out bluff statement of claim "7A" forms. You buy it for a penny on the dollar or less and if 5% of the people are stupid enough to pay it off, then Deanna's makes a mint.

You can't teach an old dog new tricks and now that Deanna Natale has moved her desk to Global, I'd be surprised not to see an upcoming flurry of complaints against Global that were heretofore directed at TCR.

As I said before, Global Credit and Collections, if you look at their website, appears to be little more than a large boiler room operation surrounded by a lot of security systems, ostensibly there to protect them from a lot of people who would probably like to wring their necks. Just my guess though.

If people receive one of those bogus Form 7A's from her, they should realize Natale is the type of woman, who if she really does have a legal case against you, will just go right ahead and sue without warning. She won't bother sending those stupid counterfiets out if she's actually is going to go through with it.

2. Since she's a lawyer, she knows full well what the provincial laws of limitation and jurisdiction are. To send letters to debtors telling them that a lawsuit is imminent in Richmond Hill Small Claims Court on what she knows is a stats barred debt amounts to professional misconduct.

It's not against the law to try to collect on a stats barred debt; after all, you can ask until eternity. It's just against the law to try collect on it via legal action and claim there's a legal remedy available when there isn't. And so a lawyer doing this would have to be deliberately practising deception. People need to send in a complaint to the Law Society of Upper Canada with supporting documentation and also keep any old account statements that they have. Why she gets away with this stuff is that no one comes forward.

Ray

Ray, now that we know deanna is sending these letters out en-masse, how do people respond to them? It's horrible what is happening, how could she be stopped?? It just doesn't seem fair or right, and I'm sure there are still an awful lot of people who don't know about this site, or have the internet for that matter.

Ray,

Thanks alot for posting that long response. Looks like I got here just in time! That is a huge relief for me. I just received one of these letters, exactly as you described in the mail today. I was more then a little confused as to why a so-called "Global" agency would file a small claims court document in Ontario on a resident of Alberta. I have never even heard of them, nor have any idea of what this debt they are talking about is. I have never had dealings with the credit card company they claim I owe money to. Even stranger was the total and complete lack of documentation that I received on the so called debt, just some line about how they would present it in court. Scared the hell out of me at any rate.

Anyhow, I read someplace around here that her mother is an MP? If so that is wonderful news! I am willing to bet my family connections are FAR better then some back-bench MP ;-). Without getting into details If I can convince the "folks" to champion this, there is a chance caucus might pay attention to it. Wouldn't that be nice, have her Mom get kicked out of committee because of her darling daughter's poor behavior. Might not happen as the family isn't one for throwing political weight around without reason. In either case I will be filing a complaint with the Upper Canada Law Socitey. Hopefully after enough complaints they will simply disbar her.

Most unsecured debts (except for things like student loans, EI and welfare overpayments and other government debts) in Ontario that went into default prior to Jan.1, 2004 had a 6 year limitation period NO MATTER what the creditor did with them after they were defaulted on. So your debt's SOL would have occurred sometime during 2000, assuming you didn't make any payments in the interim.

If the unsecured debt went into default after Jan.1, 2004, generally there's a 2 year limitation period under the new Ontario Limitations Act of 2002 that came into force on Jan.1, 2004, except for those types of debts listed above.

Ray

OMG

I am so glad i decided to post here

I am in Ontario.Global had bought the debt for Eatons they say in 2000 but i am a bit suspicious of that because i doubt Eatons would have held on to it that long they would have sent it to a collection agency problay 6-12 months after non payment and that would have been like in 1994.So i think they got it from somewhere else.

I also received those bogus Form 7A's (Statement of Claim in Ontario Small Claims Court) threatening legal action in her jurisdiction of Richmond Hill.

Well,well.... i will have to watch out for this Deanna Natale and her buddy John Mcdonald(sounds like a fake) and their lies.Any suggestions on future dealings with her regarding phone calls or mailings.

Thank you very much for the info by the way i will sleep much easier tonite.

What province do you live in? There are a number of postings about Deanna Natale already on this forum. Just go to the home page and type her name in the search box.

The old story of when i was younger and foolish with my credit card story applies here!
I ran a $1000 debt up with a large retail company (Eatons) about 12years ago. The company has since then went bankrupt here in Canada in the late 90's.

About 7 years ago i cleaned up my bad credit by searching out any outstanding bills and making good on them but obviously was not able to find this one.

Well to my amaze i received a letter from The Natale Law Offices that they have been retained from the collection agency handling this debt to recover the money. They are asking for full payment to be made out to the collection company .If payment is not made in the next 10 days their next communication states that they will proceed with a "statement of claim" and lawsuit will be commenced against me unless they receive payment in full.

They sent a nice "plaintiffs claim" along with this which is only in draft form. After i contacting the Small claims court they are familiar with the Lawyer Danna Natale and she is basically a on staff lawyer for the Global Credit & Collection Agency.

I have been advised not to make any offer of payment or promise to make payment because the SOL (statue of limitations) has run out and any promise or payment would restart the SOL.According to the The Limitation Act, s. 3(5) after 6 years they cannot use the courts to enforce repayment.

They gave me a quick call today and said "that the file was passed to them in 2000". Which still would fall under the SOL but the original account would have fallen under the SOL before they even passed it on to them. Surprisingly enough their tactic was to tell me to get the money in by Friday or court costs would be added and were eager to get me off the phone before i could even mention SOL ....lol.....

I do plan to make telephone contact with them to inform them of the SOL and they should not waste my time with such foolish scare tactics.

All though i am concerned because i recently found out that even tho it has been removed from my credit rating along time ago they can make a credit note on my file of unpaid Delinquent balance on my credit report.

Any suggestions on future dealings with these people would be greatly appreciated.thnx.