"Go ahead and sue me." Oh that's mature. What are you, 8 years old?

You have a problem with a collection agent "harassing" you? What do you expect, that they are going to take you out to dinner, suck your dick, then ask kindly if you will pay your bill? You are one of the most pathetic people I have encountered on the internet. Pay your bills and maybe you won't be such a loser.

Just to share what is going on now...

The last I spoke to a real representative was on May 3rd when again, I told him to go ahead and sue me. That I wasnt going to put up with him calling me and harrassing constantly. The last thing he told me was that he was going to call my work and speak to higher up and that they would keep on pulling my bureau.

Since then I havent spoken to him but I have received 23 voice mail at the house, some are the same, some are different but they are all from a machine and not a real person leaving a message. None of the messages state who they are just that this is my last call.... there proof that they called...press 1 to get a person on the line or just hang up and they never seem to call when im at the house, only my work hours.

I wonder what happened that for a full 2 months they where full core calling me at work, home up to 2-3 times a day and since i told him to go ahead and sue me the second time...only answering machine...anyone knows??

The truth10 would'nt know the truth if they fell over it.
Don't believe a word, they are only on this board to try and sow confusion or impart a slanted version of facts.
If they continue to phone you about the "Alleged Debt" after receiving a "cease and desist" registered letter then contact your Provincial Consumer Affairs with a complaint, or if they did'nt buy the debt and the Bank owns it then complain to the Bank Ombudsman and/or FCAC.
But remember it's an "Alleged Debt" don't start the clock ticking again.
Go with what posters like Ottawa Chap and Bullring tell you they've been here a while and only to help.

Limitation Act for Alberta

http://www.canlii.org/en/ab/laws/stat/rsa-2000-c-l-12/latest/rsa-2000-c-l-12.html

LIMITATIONS ACT

Chapter L-12

Table of Contents

1 Definitions

2 Application

3 Limitation periods

4 Concealment

5 Persons under disability

5.1 Minors

6 Claims added to a proceeding

7 Agreement

8 Acknowledgment and part payment

9 Persons affected by exceptions for agreement, acknowledgment and part payment

10 Acquiescence or laches

11 Judgment for payment of money

12 Conflict of laws

13 Actions by aboriginal people

HER MAJESTY, by and with the advice and consent of the Legislative Assembly of Alberta, enacts as follows:

Definitions

1 In this Act,

(a) “claim” means a matter giving rise to a civil proceeding in which a claimant seeks a remedial order;

(b) “claimant” means the person who seeks a remedial order;

(c) “defendant” means a person against whom a remedial order is sought;

(d) “duty” means any duty under the law;

(e) “injury” means

(i) personal injury,

(ii) property damage,

(iii) economic loss,

(iv) non-performance of an obligation, or

(v) in the absence of any of the above, the breach of a duty;

(f) “law” means the law in force in the Province, and includes

(i) statutes,

(ii) judicial precedents, and

(iii) regulations;

(g) “limitation provision” includes a limitation period or notice provision that has the effect of a limitation period;

(h) “person under disability” means

(i) a represented adult as defined in the Adult Guardianship and Trusteeship Act or a person in respect of whom a certificate of incapacity is in effect under the Public Trustee Act, or

(ii) an adult who is unable to make reasonable judgments in respect of matters relating to a claim;

(i) “remedial order” means a judgment or an order made by a court in a civil proceeding requiring a defendant to comply with a duty or to pay damages for the violation of a right, but excludes

(i) a declaration of rights and duties, legal relations or personal status,

(ii) the enforcement of a remedial order,

(iii) judicial review of the decision, act or omission of a person, board, commission, tribunal or other body in the exercise of a power conferred by statute or regulation, or

(iv) a writ of habeas corpus;

(j) “right” means any right under the law;

(k) “security interest” means an interest in property that secures the payment or other performance of an obligation.

RSA 2000 cL-12 s1;2002 c17 s4;2008 cA-4.2 s138

Application

2(1) This Act applies where a claimant seeks a remedial order in a proceeding commenced on or after March 1, 1999, whether the claim arises before, on or after March 1, 1999.

(2) Subject to sections 11 and 13, if, before March 1, 1999, the claimant knew, or in the circumstances ought to have known, of a claim and the claimant has not sought a remedial order before the earlier of

(a) the time provided by the Limitation of Actions Act, RSA 1980 cL-15, that would have been applicable but for this Act, or

(b) two years after the Limitations Act, SA 1996 cL-15.1, came into force,

the defendant, on pleading this Act as a defence, is entitled to immunity from liability in respect of the claim.

(2.1) With respect to a claim for the recovery of possession of land as defined in the Limitation of Actions Act, RSA 1980 cL-15, subsection (2) shall be read without reference to clause (b) of that subsection.

(3) Except as provided in subsection (4), this Act is applicable to any claim, including a claim to which this Act can apply arising under any law that is subject to the legislative jurisdiction of the Parliament of Canada, if

(a) the remedial order is sought in a proceeding before a court created by the Province, or

(b) the claim arose within the Province and the remedial order is sought in a proceeding before a court created by the Parliament of Canada.

(4) This Act does not apply where a claimant seeks

(a) a remedial order based on adverse possession of real property owned by the Crown, or

(b) a remedial order the granting of which is subject to a limitation provision in any other enactment of the Province.

(5) The Crown is bound by this Act.

RSA 2000 cL-12 s2;2007 c22 s1

Limitation periods

3(1) Subject to section 11, if a claimant does not seek a remedial order within

(a) 2 years after the date on which the claimant first knew, or in the circumstances ought to have known,

(i) that the injury for which the claimant seeks a remedial order had occurred,

(ii) that the injury was attributable to conduct of the defendant, and

(iii) that the injury, assuming liability on the part of the defendant, warrants bringing a proceeding,

or

(b) 10 years after the claim arose,

whichever period expires first, the defendant, on pleading this Act as a defence, is entitled to immunity from liability in respect of the claim.

(2) The limitation period provided by subsection (1)(a) begins

(a) against a successor owner of a claim when either a predecessor owner or the successor owner of the claim first acquired or ought to have acquired the knowledge prescribed in subsection (1)(a),

(b) against a principal when either

(i) the principal first acquired or ought to have acquired the knowledge prescribed in subsection (1)(a), or

(ii) an agent with a duty to communicate the knowledge prescribed in subsection (1)(a) to the principal, first actually acquired that knowledge,

and

(c) against a personal representative of a deceased person as a successor owner of a claim, at the earliest of the following times:

(i) when the deceased owner first acquired or ought to have acquired the knowledge prescribed in subsection (1)(a), if the deceased owner acquired the knowledge more than 2 years before the deceased owner’s death;

(ii) when the representative was appointed, if the representative had the knowledge prescribed in subsection (1)(a) at that time;

(iii) when the representative first acquired or ought to have acquired the knowledge prescribed in subsection (1)(a), if the representative acquired the knowledge after being appointed.

(3) For the purposes of subsection (1)(b),

(a) a claim or any number of claims based on any number of breaches of duty, resulting from a continuing course of conduct or a series of related acts or omissions, arises when the conduct terminates or the last act or omission occurs;

(b) a claim based on a breach of a duty arises when the conduct, act or omission occurs;

(c) a claim based on a demand obligation arises when a default in performance occurs after a demand for performance is made;

(d) a claim in respect of a proceeding under the Fatal Accidents Act arises when the conduct that causes the death, on which the claim is based, occurs;

(e) a claim for contribution arises when the claimant for contribution is made a defendant in respect of, or incurs a liability through the settlement of, a claim seeking to impose a liability on which the claim for contribution can be based, whichever first occurs;

(f) a claim for a remedial order for the recovery of possession of real property arises when the claimant is dispossessed of the real property.

(4) The limitation period provided by subsection (1)(a) does not apply where a claimant seeks a remedial order for possession of real property, including a remedial order under section 69 of the Law of Property Act.

(5) Under this section,

(a) the claimant has the burden of proving that a remedial order was sought within the limitation period provided by subsection (1)(a), and

(b) the defendant has the burden of proving that a remedial order was not sought within the limitation period provided by subsection (1)(b).

(6) The re-entry of a claimant to real property in order to recover possession of that real property is effective only if it occurs prior to the end of the 10-year limitation period provided by subsection (1)(b).

(7) If a person in possession of real property has given to the person entitled to possession of the real property an acknowledgment in writing of that person’s title to the real property prior to the expiry of the 10-year limitation period provided by subsection (1)(b),

(a) possession of the real property by the person who has given the acknowledgment is deemed, for the purposes of this Act, to have been possession by the person to whom the acknowledgment was given, and

(b) the right of the person to whom the acknowledgment was given, or of a successor in title to that person, to take proceedings to recover possession of the real property is deemed to have arisen at the time at which the acknowledgment, or the last of the acknowledgments if there was more than one, was given.

(8) If the right to recover possession of real property first accrued to a predecessor in title of the claimant from whom the claimant acquired the title as a donee, proceedings to recover possession of the real property may not be taken by the claimant except within 10 years after the right accrued to that predecessor.

RSA 2000 cL-12 s3;2007 c22 s1

Concealment

4(1) The operation of the limitation period provided by section 3(1)(b) is suspended during any period of time that the defendant fraudulently conceals the fact that the injury for which a remedial order is sought has occurred.

(2) Under this section, the claimant has the burden of proving that the operation of the limitation period provided by section 3(1)(b) was suspended.

1996 cL-15.1 s4

Persons under disability

5(1) The operation of the limitation periods provided by this Act is suspended during any period of time that the claimant is a person under disability.

(2) The claimant has the burden of proving that the operation of the limitation periods provided by this Act was suspended under this section.

RSA 2000 cL-12 s5;2002 c17 s4

Minors

5.1(1) In this section,

(a) “guardian” means a parent or guardian having actual custody of a minor;

(b) “potential defendant” means a person against whom a minor may have a claim.

(2) Except as otherwise provided in this section, the operation of limitation periods provided by this Act is suspended during the period of time that the claimant is a minor.

(3) A potential defendant may cause the limitation periods provided by this Act to run against a minor by

(a) delivering a notice to proceed in the prescribed form to

(i) a guardian of the minor, if the minor has a guardian, and

(ii) the Public Trustee,

and

(b) paying the Public Trustee’s prescribed fee.

(4) Where a potential defendant has complied with subsection (3), the notice to proceed takes effect and the limitation periods provided by this Act begin to run

(a) on the date the notice to proceed is received by the Public Trustee, which must be shown in the notice delivered by the Public Trustee under subsection (6)(a) or (b), or

(b) on the date determined by an order of a judge under subsection (7) or (8).

(5) Where a potential defendant delivers a notice to proceed to the Public Trustee under subsection (3) and pays the Public Trustee’s prescribed fee, the Public Trustee must

(a) if the claimant has a guardian, make such inquiries as the Public Trustee considers necessary and practicable regarding the ability and intention of the claimant’s guardian to act in the best interest of the minor regarding the claim, or

(b) if the claimant does not have a guardian, apply by originating notice of motion to a judge of the Court of Queen’s Bench, on notice to such persons as may be directed or approved by the judge, for directions.

(6) After making the inquiries referred to in subsection (5)(a), the Public Trustee must do one of the following:

(a) if satisfied as to the guardian’s ability and intention to act in the best interest of the minor regarding the claim, deliver to the potential defendant and the guardian a notice in the prescribed form of the Public Trustee’s decision not to intervene in the matter;

(b) with the consent of the claimant’s guardian, deliver to the potential defendant a notice in the prescribed form stating that the Public Trustee intends to act as next friend of the minor in relation to the claim;

(c) if for any reason the Public Trustee thinks it necessary or appropriate to do so, apply by originating notice of motion to a judge of the Court of Queen’s Bench, on notice to such persons as may be directed or approved by the judge, for directions.

(7) On an application under subsection (5)(b), a judge may make an order

(a) directing the Public Trustee to take no further steps in the matter and stipulating that the limitation periods provided by this Act continue to be suspended with respect to the minor despite subsection (3), or

(b) doing all of the following:

(i) stipulating that the limitation periods provided by this Act begin to run against the minor on a date specified in the order;

(ii) authorizing and directing the Public Trustee to act as next friend of the minor;

(iii) giving such authority and directions to the Public Trustee and any other person as may be necessary to ensure that the Public Trustee may effectively prosecute the claim on behalf of the minor.

(8) On an application under subsection (6)(c), a judge may make an order

(a) directing the Public Trustee to take no further steps in the matter and stipulating that the limitation periods provided by this Act

(i) begin to run against the minor on a date specified in the order, or

(ii) continue to be suspended with respect to the minor despite subsection (3),

or

(b) doing all of the following:

(i) stipulating that the limitation periods provided by this Act begin to run against the minor on a date specified in the order;

(ii) authorizing and directing the Public Trustee to act as next friend of the minor;

(iii) giving such authority and directions to the Public Trustee, guardian, if any, and any other person as may be necessary to ensure that the Public Trustee may effectively prosecute the claim on behalf of the minor.

(9) On an application by the Public Trustee under subsection (5)(b) or (6)(c), a judge may consider

(a) the apparent seriousness of the minor’s injury;

(b) the apparent legal merits of the claim;

(c) the views of the Public Trustee and the guardian, if any, as to whether the minor’s best interest will be better served by pursuing or by not pursuing the claim;

(d) the view of the minor regarding the claim, where the judge considers that the minor is able to appreciate the nature of the issue;

(e) where the guardian or the minor is opposed to pursuing the claim, the apparent likelihood that the Public Trustee would be able to prosecute the claim effectively as next friend;

(f) whether directing the Public Trustee to take no further steps and stipulating that the limitation periods provided by this Act continue to be suspended with respect to the minor is likely to cause serious prejudice to either the minor or the potential defendant, having regard to any matters that the judge considers relevant, including

(i) the minor’s age,

(ii) whether the minor will be, or is likely to be, a person under disability on becoming an adult,

(iii) whether it would be practicable to preserve relevant evidence during the period the limitation periods would be suspended, and

(iv) any harm that may be suffered by the minor as a result of any delay in recovering compensation to which the minor may be entitled;

(g) any other matters the judge considers relevant.

(10) Where the Public Trustee makes an application to the Court of Queen’s Bench under this section, no costs may be awarded against any party to the application.

(11) Subsection (4) operates only in favour of a potential defendant on whose behalf the notice to proceed is delivered and only with respect to a claim arising out of the circumstances specified in the notice.

(12) A notice to proceed delivered under this section is not an acknowledgment for the purposes of this Act and is not an admission for any purpose.

(13) Subsections (3) to (12) do not apply

(a) where the potential defendant is a guardian of the minor, or

(b) where the claim is based on conduct of a sexual nature including, without limitation, sexual assault.

(14) Under this section, the claimant has the burden of proving that at any relevant point in time the claimant was a minor.

(15) The Minister may make regulations prescribing

(a) the form, contents and mode of a delivery of a notice to proceed or any other notice referred to in this section;

(b) the fee to be paid by a potential defendant under subsection (3)(b).

(16) This section applies where a claimant seeks a remedial order in a proceeding commenced after this section comes into force, regardless of when the claim arises, except that a defendant who would have had immunity from liability for a claim if the proceeding had been commenced immediately before this section came into force continues to have immunity from liability for that claim.

2002 c17 s4

Claims added to a proceeding

6(1) Notwithstanding the expiration of the relevant limitation period, when a claim is added to a proceeding previously commenced, either through a new pleading or an amendment to pleadings, the defendant is not entitled to immunity from liability in respect of the added claim if the requirements of subsection (2), (3) or (4) are satisfied.

(2) When the added claim

(a) is made by a defendant in the proceeding against a claimant in the proceeding, or

(b) does not add or substitute a claimant or a defendant, or change the capacity in which a claimant sues or a defendant is sued,

the added claim must be related to the conduct, transaction or events described in the original pleading in the proceeding.

(3) When the added claim adds or substitutes a claimant, or changes the capacity in which a claimant sues,

(a) the added claim must be related to the conduct, transaction or events described in the original pleading in the proceeding,

(b) the defendant must have received, within the limitation period applicable to the added claim plus the time provided by law for the service of process, sufficient knowledge of the added claim that the defendant will not be prejudiced in maintaining a defence to it on the merits, and

(c) the court must be satisfied that the added claim is necessary or desirable to ensure the effective enforcement of the claims originally asserted or intended to be asserted in the proceeding.

(4) When the added claim adds or substitutes a defendant, or changes the capacity in which a defendant is sued,

(a) the added claim must be related to the conduct, transaction or events described in the original pleading in the proceeding, and

(b) the defendant must have received, within the limitation period applicable to the added claim plus the time provided by law for the service of process, sufficient knowledge of the added claim that the defendant will not be prejudiced in maintaining a defence to it on the merits.

(5) Under this section,

(a) the claimant has the burden of proving

(i) that the added claim is related to the conduct, transaction or events described in the original pleading in the proceeding, and

(ii) that the requirement of subsection (3)(c), if in issue, has been satisfied,

and

(b) the defendant has the burden of proving that the requirement of subsection (3)(b) or (4)(b), if in issue, was not satisfied.

1996 cL-15.1 s6

Agreement

7(1) Subject to section 9, if an agreement expressly provides for the extension of a limitation period provided by this Act, the limitation period is altered in accordance with the agreement.

(2) An agreement that purports to provide for the reduction of a limitation period provided by this Act is not valid.

RSA 2000 cL-12 s7;2002 c17 s4

Acknowledgment and part payment

8(1) In this section, “claim” means a claim for the recovery, through the realization of a security interest or otherwise, of an accrued liquidated pecuniary sum, including, but not limited to a principal debt, rents, income and a share of estate property, and interest on any of them.

(2) Subject to subsections (3) and (4) and section 9, if a person liable in respect of a claim acknowledges the claim, or makes a part payment in respect of the claim, before the expiration of the limitation period applicable to the claim, the operation of the limitation period begins again at the time of the acknowledgment or part payment.

(3) A claim may be acknowledged only by an admission of the person liable in respect of it that the sum claimed is due and unpaid, but an acknowledgment is effective

(a) whether or not a promise to pay can be implied from it, and

(b) whether or not it is accompanied with a refusal to pay.

(4) When a claim is for the recovery of both a primary sum and interest on it, an acknowledgment of either obligation, or a part payment in respect of either obligation, is an acknowledgment of, or a part payment in respect of, the other obligation.

1996 cL-15.1 s8

Persons affected by exceptions for agreement, acknowledgment and part payment

9(1) An agreement and an acknowledgment must be in writing and signed by the person adversely affected.

(2) An agreement made by or with an agent has the same effect as if made by or with the principal.

(3) An acknowledgment or a part payment made by or to an agent has the same effect as if it were made by or to the principal.

(4) A person has the benefit of an agreement, an acknowledgment or a part payment only if it is made

(a) with or to the person,

(b) with or to a person through whom the person derives a claim, or

(c) in the course of proceedings or a transaction purporting to be pursuant to the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act (Canada).

(5) A person is bound by an agreement, an acknowledgment or a part payment only if

(a) the person is a maker of it, or

(b) the person is liable in respect of a claim

(i) as a successor of a maker, or

(ii) through the acquisition of an interest in property from or through a maker

who was liable in respect of the claim.

1996 cL-15.1 s9

Acquiescence or laches

10 Nothing in this Act precludes a court from granting a defendant immunity from liability under the equitable doctrines of acquiescence or laches, notwithstanding that the defendant would not be entitled to immunity pursuant to this Act.

1996 cL-15.1 s10

Judgment for payment of money

11 If, within 10 years after the claim arose, a claimant does not seek a remedial order in respect of a claim based on a judgment or order for the payment of money, the defendant, on pleading this Act as a defence, is entitled to immunity from liability in respect of the claim.

1996 cL-15.1 s11

Conflict of laws

12(1) The limitations law of Alberta applies to any proceeding commenced or sought to be commenced in Alberta in which a claimant seeks a remedial order.

(2) Notwithstanding subsection (1), where a proceeding referred to in subsection (1) would be determined in accordance with the law of another jurisdiction if it were to proceed, and the limitations law of that jurisdiction provides a shorter limitation period than the limitation period provided by the law of Alberta, the shorter limitation period applies.

RSA 2000 cL-12 s12;2007 c22 s1

Actions by aboriginal people

13 An action brought on or after March 1, 1999 by an aboriginal people against the Crown based on a breach of a fiduciary duty alleged to be owed by the Crown to those people is governed by the law on limitation of actions as if the Limitation of Actions Act, RSA 1980 cL-15, had not been repealed and this Act were not in force.

1996 cL-15.1 s13

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If the debt is past it's SOL, then why does it "need to be paid"?

Send them a FOAD letter. OOS debt is just that, OOS.

If the poster was from Ontario I'd recommend reviewing ONTARIO REGULATION 103/06 which clearly outlines the limits Agencies and their Collectors must work within. With a little effort, I'm sure the initial poster could locate the Limitation act for Alberta. Unfortunately, I don't have it off hand. Here's Ontario's:

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/source/regs/english/2006/elaws_src_regs_r06103_e.htm

The agency did not buy the debt. be careful with the advise you have recieved here, I have worked iin the industry for 14 years, and what the prev poster said is not correct. Collection activity will continue letter or not. What I would suggest is to contact the agency and put all financials on the table so they can see your situation and work out a payment schedule. The bottom line is it is a debt that needs to be paid, so start there and work out a suitable arrangement for both parties

Send them a letter (via fax AND registered mail) which states you believe the nature and frequency of the telephone calls is harassment and, unless they intend to serve you with a Small Claims Court action, their telephone calls must cease.

Once you have confirmation they have received this letter, if they call you again, contact the Ontario Ministry of Consumer Services and file a complaint against them.

I have been dealing with Global Credit for about 2 months now, constant calls at home and work over the same thing, you owe money and so on a Student Loan dating back from 1992-1996 which would be the Risk Portion (but they havent told me so).

The last payment they say made was in 2001 and im fed up with them harrasing me over 23000 as per them. I finally told the guy yesterday enough is enough and Sue Me. You have been telling me since March that is what you are going to take me to court and that you are going to recommend procedding to your client against me. Well then just go ahead and do it. He then tells me that its not his job to sue me?????? What!!!!!!!!!!! You have been harrasing me, driving me crazy and I tell you to go ahead and sue me and now you tell me that its not your job???

Would they now have to bring this information to the Creditor (BNS) and go from there?? Or did I hit a soft spot and know that because of the SOL they cant sue me??? As the BNS written off the debt, sold it to them and they are the ones trying to get something on a SOL debt?

I have received a copy of my equifax and it only shows in the second part of the inquiries that they pulled a bureau in me back in February.
Thanks in advance
Kelbra